Feast your eyes! Triumph has decided to release official photos of the new Tiger 800 and Tiger 800 XC (pictured at the bottom) in advance of the official unveiling next month. The photos show a narrow and apparently light dual-purpose machine, with the road oriented version featuring a 19 inch front wheel and the off-road oriented version featuring a spoked 21 incher. The beefy frame looks overbuilt (particularly, the welded on subframe) to deal with the rigors of off-road riding, touring, passenger and luggage.
This bike has generated tremendous interest, but the photos are all we have at this point. All of the official specifications will be released later, including pricing and availability information.
The large displacement dual purpose category is certainly becoming more popular here in the United States (it is already popular in Europe). This lighter, more nimble version of Triumph’s Tiger looks set to be a big hit, both here and abroad. We are pleased to see Triumph decided to put a 19 inch front wheel on the street version, similar to Suzuki’s V – Strom. This will give the bike a touch of off-road capability together with the ability to suck up bad street surfaces. Brakes, fit and finish all appear to be top-notch. The bike should certainly be quite light for the category, given the big head start Triumph had with the sportbike-based engine.
Triumph, along with Kawasaki, appears to be one of the few manufacturers willing to push new model development during the current poor economy, and it should continue to pick up market share as a result. Hinckley promises much more to come in the near future.
This engine would be perfect for my “dream Triumph”. Something in between Bonneville and Street Triple. I.E. A naked bike with up to date mechanicals but slightly retro styling. Think 900 Thunderbird Sport updated but way lighter and more powerful. They could bring back the Trident name for it. How about it Triumph?
The specifications of the Tiger 800 match up much more closely with the V-Strom 1000, which is priced at $9799. I can understand wishing the Tiger 800 would compete with the 650 on price, but it’s in a completely different league.
Terp
Thanks for the calculations
If Triumph is just after the BMW market
they will not be successful.
They have to go after the 650 V-Strom as well.
My thoughts are $10,999 Canadian
Cheers TC
Just did some number crunching and come up with an estimated price for the Tiger 800 (non-ABS) of about US $9730. (All numbers rounded to the nearest 5.) I took the price of a Tiger 1050 in the UK (8800 pds)and converted it into dollars ($14150). The actual price of a Tiger 1050 in the US is $12000. The UK price of the 800 is 7150 pds, which equates to US $11475. Assuming that the percentage price difference between US and UK models is the same as for the 800 and 1050, and a bit of basic algebra you get @ $9730.
X 12000
—– = ——
11475 14150
Given that the main competition (BMW F800GS) is priced at $11,455, I bet the Tiger 800 MSRP will be US $9999.
Have been looking for my next big dualie (previously owned 3 Bmw GS’s, a 97 Tiger, a KLR and last but not least a 03 V-Strom 1000)and have been seriously considering the KTM Adventurer. However, like many others posting here, this 800XC has grabbed my attention. Right price, right accessories, and very importantly the right fuel capacity and this might be the one.
Price them rite ! Stack m high and watch m fly.
Triumph you are going to sell these babies!
There’s no mention of detachable hard bags, without which the whole concept becomes an exercise in futility!
Nice looking BMW. Sorry Triumph but I will buy the real deal and get a BMW GS800. Why buy a copy of the real thing.
It’s amazing that little Triumph is willing to offer us bikes that we want while giant Honda just sits on it’s duff. Not to surprising, I suppose.
Fuel capacity appears to be lacking and what there is will be carried high – top heavy with a full tank. No centerstand? WTH?
I’m not completely convinced that the bulk of its admittedly smallish fuel load isn’t carried under the seat. All of the pics I’ve seen show a sizable “box” area under the seat. Maybe it’s airbox/battery box but it wouldn’t shock me if, even though the filler is in the more traditional location, that the fuel isn’t carried lower. Wishful thinking? Maybe. We’ll see.
Fuel capacity is rumored to be around 20 liters, but obviously we won’t know for sure till Triumph releases specs.
Centerstand is available as an option. Visible on the black XC in the action shots Triumph released — also visible on that bike are crash bars, bigger skid plate, and auxiliary lights.
nail the price…? and “hotcakes” will have nothing on sales of the T-800.
Look promising, if it makes 110hp or more I’d have one.
Finally the tire valves are pointed sideways, that is progress.
could these things be any uglier…
I’m glad to see that a manufacturer is taking a stab at ripping-off the F800GS/F650GS(twin) concept. No matter what the numbers revealed will actually be (weight, price, power), these mid-size adventure bikes from Triumph are sure to be a hit with the heart of a sport bike and the capability to travel the planet. The Tiger 800 XC is looking so good that I’ve officially renamed my “F800GS” savings account the “800 XC” savings account.
Not digging the “Velocipede Look” on the Road version with the 19″ front wheel. Why not a 17″? Better handling, more tire choices, (less weight?), BETTER LOOKS?…isn’t this one the “Road” one? Go figure.
I see an 800cc Triumph Motard JUST waiting and begging to happen with the Road Version, DO IT, DO IT! U KNOW U WANT TO!
After all, im sure whoever plans on “going off the beaten path(asphalt)” with this things will probably sprint for the XC from the get go.
Does the Seat looks too low to anyonelse but me? Im 6’…
Other than my previous bitchin, It looks like a really Utilitarian, do it all, long legged, no stupid Gizmos, “British UJM”. Thats always cool with me.
It don’t matter to me if it look like BMW’s F800GS. Here Form follows Function (as it should be with almost anything)…just look at Nature or Dirt bikes for that matter like someone cleverly pointed in another tread.
19″ front because Triumph is positioning it as an adventure bike, not an upright sport-tourer. There are no proper dual-sport tires available in a 17″ front, but plenty in a 19″ front, and there are still plenty of street tire choices.
For people who want an upright sport-touring bike with 17″ front, Triumph will still be selling the Tiger 1050.
True, but the 1050 Is Fugly beyond this one…(on my eyes anyways, never liked those projector headlights and that banana seat/subframe that looks like is reaching for heaven, Ho-Hum suspenders, just one wierd looking beast ) and feels like its been around forever now, some may see it the other way around.
Maybe the 1200 that’s been road testing on the U.K will make it look hot again ? Doubt it.
what, no 17″ supermoto wheelset?
WoW. I really like the look of this bike. I’m saving my money, can’t wait until this arrives at my dealer.
Oooh that looks nice. This category is heating up. Heck, maybe even Honda will come up with something to compete in this category in 6-8 years
LOL…!
you meant 60-80 years.
When you think of Honda, think……..Accord.
stupid passenger pegs. drop it in the dirt and total the frame. ????
Looks like a copy cat of the f 800 gs, less power probably and looks kinda ugly compared to the 800gs
Less power – well they would have to be pretty ham fisted to make less power with an engine that at 675cc is already making much more power than a GS (probably more than a 1200 GS!)! The Engine is NOT going to be a weak point here – I predict all GS Beemers will feel the heat.
Let me know when you accidentally wheelie any GS at 65mph on flat ground…that’s what happened when I test rode the 675R.
i like the 21-inch version, it’s obvious the bike’s styling was built around that wheel diameter. the 19-incher has a big ‘ol gap between the rubber and the rad-shrouds that looks just plain wrong. looks like a worthy competitor to the Bimmer
should be well suited to touring motard duties, which other than the dirt, is all I care for.
Now that I KNOW I will own one, visions of all-day-long backroads hooliganism dance through my mind…
Does it come with deer whistles? I think this is what i’m looking for.
I’m Triumph biased already (own a 1200 Trophy sport-tourer), but this is one of the best all multi-purpose bikes I’ve seen to date. There are some great ones out there, the V-Stroms, KLR 650’s and more. But this one has my vote and maybe my money! As soon as it hits the showrooms I’m definitely going to be crawling all over it! Great job again Triumph! Now let’s start concentrating on getting that Trophy 1300 out to the public, I’m ready for a new one!
The love child of my R1200G and Speed Triple
Well put!
Bow Chicka Wow Wow
I am a female, 5’6″ and loved the Tiger but it was way too tall for me. I have ridden the Street Triple R and loved it but bad back issues mean the riding position is not viable (managed to get my husband to buy one though!) I bought a 650 Vstrom a year ago but if this is all it seems to be stacking up to be I will be breaking my habit of keeping bikes for 5-6 years and jumping ship to this!!
i’d go that trumpy over the bmw anyday.
This is one BAD looking bike. I ride a KLR and thought I was a one bike man, but it looks like I may have love for another.
130 lbs less than my 2000 R1150GS and possibly more power?! That’s freegin righteous.
Pity the fooool, pi-ty the fooooowwaaal…who recently bought an F800GS!
I guess all those F800GS owners had better stop enjoying their bikes RIGHT NOW!
LOL.
Check your F800GS stock (resale value) two months after the Trumpet appears. I rode the F800GS and was not enthused with the handling; front end shimmied all over the place. It’s got power though. Motor too buzzy for me.
Trumpet?
(Tooting you own horn?)
Also riding a 1999 R1150GS. Tested a F800GS expecting to be very impressed. Much better off road but so disappointing on the highway, buzzed and shimmied just like you said. We know this Triumph motor will be smooth and fueling should be spot on. Not too concerned about max power, that’s not what these bikes are about, 95hp would be more than enough. The panniers need to be up to BM standards. Seat height looks adjustable from pics. As long as the on/off road handling is sorted then it may be time to say bye bye to the GS.
Tim:
Thank you for the seat height specs from a site. 31.9 to 32.6 will probably and hopefully do it. Appreciate the info, and very glad Triumph has come up with and is making this bike. I’ve been waiting since I got online about 1998. This bike is everything a rider who had a Honda in 1972 and then wished for a CB450 or CL450 at the time could ask for. It’s been 38, okay 37 years since I sold it with 6000 miles.
No sweat, robert. Of course, none of it has been confirmed as far as I know. It’s just fun to have some numbers to play with while we’re waiting for the official launch. But, I read it on the Interwebs so it MUST be true, right?
Now let’s see what Honda has up it’s sleeve.
What happened to the knobbies that we saw in the video and the earlier ads???
You can always just put them on yourself…it would worth the cost and effort.
Just to add a note, the Street Triple R seemed way too small for what I’m looking for. Granted, it might be or is the best naked midsize street bike, but it is way too small overall for all day comfort. The current Bonneville tends to be on the small side, like the bike I remember from the Sixties (pre-adolescence). The current Tiger 1050’s wheelbase is only 57 inches. So Triumph seems to err on the small side, and you can say that is British tradition, but a six foot person needs a comfortable adventure, go anywhere, mostly street, standard ergonomics bike.
It sounds like, what you want is a Heritage Softtail with knobbies.
Sounds more like a Rocket with knobbies kind of guy…
No, a cruiser position is not attractive to me. The adventure , standard ergonomics with a windshield are very attractive. And no, I don’t like the 90 degree right angle position of the old Multistrada. I would say that both of the V-Stroms, 650 and 1000, are acceptable. There must be a little forward lean, not bolt upright like the old Multistrada. Cruisers no thanks.
Just sayin’ my preference, guys. Any ideal on two wheels is okay, and it is a motorcycle.
I’m alarmed by one or maybe two things in the official pictures. The seat seems low, for one. A bike like this has to have a seat at least as high as the V-Strom650, about 32 inches. Otherwise we are talking about a cramped bike without a commanding view of the road. Second, is the wheelbase 61 inches or more, like it’s BMW (both f650gs and f800gs) and Suzuki (V-Stroms) competitors? I do not want the feeling of the Kawasaki Versys, where I feel like I’m sitting on top of the rear wheel, versus the V-Strom650. I am interested in the road version of the Triumph800Adventure. A low seat height could negate the deal for me. Where to go? The BMW650gs or the new Honda 800 adventure, the latter to be revealed at Eicma 2010. I think that Triumph engineering and the triple engine are a compelling sales point, but a low seat or short wheelbase could wreck things. I’m hoping for great reviews of the Triumph 800 after EICMA, which will be the final determinant. Cramped legs for this 6 footer are not doable. I’m hoping Triumph has made our dream bike!
Another site lists some specs, including seat heights. According to the list, both bikes have about 3/4″ of adjustment and the XC is listed as 33.25″ to 34″. The other model is 31.9″ to 32.6″.
I owned a T595. With under 10,000km it was leaking oil. That bike made me non-believer in the brand. I guess that makes a Triumph dealer somewhat like a casino. I’ll pass.
You judge an entire brand because one bike you had leaked oil. Pretty funny.
Ditto. Pathetic.
I dated a woman that was crazy. I however still like women!(I think Honda/Kawa/suzi/duc/ etc. have all made bikes that and even used oil.)
aah the joy of high brow internet discourse. The bike was shite, the engine leaked, and with body work cracking, busted tail light housing. Well I’ve been riding for years on other brands. Never gave on motorcycles, just grappy ones.
Ah yes the high brow discourse of the internet. The bike was junk. I’ve been riding for decades, and never gave up on motorcycles. Just crappy ones.
How many should he purchase before he can pass judgement on how to spend his money?
I currently own a 2001 (first year) Bonneville with 70,000 miles on it. The bike has run flawlessly, far exceeding my expectations. I will almost certainly buy another Triumph and this Tiger may well be the one. Just the right mix of power, weight and the comfortable upright riding position. Plus there’s nothing quite like their triple. For a company that was dead and buried they’ve come an awful long way. Who else has as complete a lineup as they do?
Don’t feed the trolls.
Anyone who wants to judge a company for what they did from a decade ago must be a bitter old troll who isn’t paying attention.
My first Triumph was an 03 Sprint st. I put 46000 miles on before splitting a deer in 2 with it. Never a lick of trouble. My second triumph was an 06 675. 28000 miles on it before the first deer’s father tried to split me in 2. Shame, I loved both those bikes.
I have around 16k on my 2007 Bonneville Black and have yet to have a single mechanical issue with it and it hasn’t dripped a single drop of oil.
I love everything except the exhaust. I know a big canister is needed for max horsepower, but that monstrosity looks like it will consumer at least 25 percent of the potential volume of the right-side pannier. I’d gladly sacrifice a few horsepower for a cleaner design, a la Ducati and Buell (RIP).
Just pack less stuff…or get a tank bag.
Capacity concerns for one saddlebag are hardly a reason to dismiss what looks to be a very cool motorcycle.
“Capacity concerns for one saddlebag are hardly a reason to dismiss what looks to be a very cool motorcycle.”
Maybe … but they are plenty good reason to make me look at other bikes with better design.
LOL. “COOL” does not have a place when talking about dual sports, Utilitarian,functional,etc are more lke it.
And NO, why get half of the right saddlebag when they could have clearly done something about it (Undertail or Lower).
Look at the glass half-full: the left saddle bag will be even BIGGER than the one on the right! And you get a “cool” utilitarian/functional bike to go with it…
Has anyone actually SEEN saddlebags on the dang thing? Has anyone actually LOOKED inside to see what compromise was made, if any? Ever looked at the OEM (*ahem*) HIGH MOUNT F800GS configuration? The exhaust can is pretty frickin’ big – and right in the way of the left bag. Note the compromise made:
http://www.dualsportplus.com/BMW_GS/photos/Jesse_luggage.jpg
Look at nearly ANY sport touring/dual-sport rig. One of the bags generally takes a hit on capacity. This concept is as old as the hills…..quit taking Triumph to task as if they’re the first and only ones and like it’s some unheard of travesty.
I guess is a dual sport “thing” for adding character ? W/e the reason…is what we get.
Well, if memory serves my well, the FJR1300. ST1300, C14, R1200RT, K1300GT don’t have that issue. Pics are worth a billion words. Like i said, a DUAL SPORT Thing.
I like it and I hope the XC gets Suzuki thinking about doing something similar with the 650 V-Strom. There could be a lot more to differentiate the two versions like much less Tupperware on the more dirt oriented model. An 800cc V-Twin would be nice, as well.
Suzuki does make a 1000cc V-Strom in case you need more power
Really?! I’ve never heard of that. Is it new?
Nobody NEEDS more power than the DL650. It’s always nice to have, though. I didn’t care for the two Liter-Stroms I’ve ridden. Too much weight up high and too much vibration compared to the 650. It also under performs compared to the 650. By that I mean it should stomp it’s little brother in roll ons but it doesn’t beat it by much.
BUT, I’m not trying to turn this into a 1000 vs. 650 thing. That’s why an 800cc twin with the weight of the DL650 would be ideal in a lot of people’s views.
Heck, I couldn’t get my local Triumph dealer to bring in the bigger Tiger, so this hardly matters, but I like the looks of it and it should be a great competitor for the F800GS, Multistrada market – especially if it’s priced closer to the ‘Stroms – but we’ll have to see about that, won’t we ?
Dan
Honolulu
I currently ride the 2007 Tiger 1050 which was Bike of the Year for 2007.
My prediction…this AWESOME & AMAZING Bike is a clear WINNER for Bike of the Year and any other awards that can be given.
I can hardly wait for a demo ride on this…then maybe even one in my garage!!! 🙂
looks very nice. The frame seems wacky with all those bends in it. The thing i dont like is the welded subframe, yes it might make it stronger but i think it was a cost of manufacturing consideration, what are you going to do in case of a drop and that part bends, ive had to replace my subframe on my vstrom for that reason and no cutting or welding where involved.
HA! Good point on the welded subframe.
I like the tubular frame , can’t say the same about the huge distance between the headlight/windscreen and the bars. As any V Strom owner will tell you , the farther away the windscreen is from the rider , the more wind turbulence in your face coming around the sides of the screen . And the headlight being that far out in front just looks strange and out of place .
OK. What’s the difference between these two bikes, other tan hand guards & wheels? They even seem to have the same tires.
xc version has a larger diameter (19″?) spoked front wheel vs a 17″ aluminum mag. Otherwise you’re right, pretty similar
From the article above: “The photos show a narrow and apparently light dual-purpose machine, with the road oriented version featuring a 19 inch front wheel and the off-road oriented version featuring a spoked 21 incher.”
Also looks like the XC gets a remote reservoir for the rear shock that is not present on other pics of the road version I’ve seen. Then there’s the “beak.” It also looks like the XC has a bit more suspension travel, (1 to 3 inches?). No side stand required on the road going version either, apparently. It must have some NASA developed, gyroscopic self leveling technology.
From another site. Take it with as many grains of salt as you feel comfortable with but notice the larger front forks on the XC:
Tiger 800.
Showa 43mm USD forks.
19″ cast front wheel.
Ignition key controlled immobiliser system.
Height adjustable seat with 20mm range of adjustability.
Adjustable handlebars.
Seat height 810-830mm.
Wet weight 210kg (462lbs. approx).
95 ps (98bhp aprox’).
Tiger 800 XC.
Showa 45mm USD forks with 220mm (roughly 8.7 inches) of travel.
21″ Wire spoked wheels.
Seat height 845-865mm (seat is again adjustable).
Hand Guards.
Radiator Guards.
Wider bars than tarmac version.
Other features as per Tarmac version.
When can I get the road oriented version?
I’m waiting in line right behind you!
What, no centerstand?? I still like the looks of it, but don’t care for welded-on passenger footpeg brackets…..would like to be able to take them off, and what happens if you low-side on one = bent….no way to replace?? We need a head-to-head comparison with a Beemer, Vstrom, Yami “Tenure”…..when all are available for testing.
Perhaps this engine in the Datona Chassis???? Hummmm…
Don’t be giving them any crazy encouregement or ideas. A Daytona1200 should be next…them maybe afterwards take seriously your sugested “heart transplant”.
Thoppa, notice the 3 cylinders
Paul, notice the styling ! Remind you of anything ? 😉
I guess there are SOME similarities between the F800/650 and the Tiger 800, (maybe they should call it a 675 just to avoid confusion), except Triumph figured out how to make both headlights the same size.
Are you accusing Triumph of copying the dual purpose bike concept from BMW? I’d say that the F800GS (a great bike IMHO) represented a legitimate target for Triumph to put it’s own (possibly better) spin on. Form follows function, what works, works. I don’t remember seeing too many Chopper, Gold Wing or ZX-10 styled dirt bikes, these bikes have different functions and thus different forms. The “Dual-Purpose” bike has been around since the Yamaha DT-1 in the sixties at least. My first new bike was a 1975 Kawasaki KS-125 “Enduro” (great bike), I could easily see one of these new Triumphs as my next.
Not me but I think Thoppa is trying to.
The concept is old. I am refering specifically to the styling. The R1200GS becanme very popular in the UK with a certain type of person after it was used by Ewan McGregor and Charlie Boorman on their trip around the world. The spawned the phrase “Ewan-wannabe” for people on these bikes. I am sorry to say that this Triumph has been styled like it is in the GS range and nothing like Triumphs original designs. It is a BMW-waanabe. Imagine Harley started producing bikes that deliberately took styling cues from Handa….
paul you got it wrong -its the daytona cams in the xc for the 130 hp win !!!!!!!!
Pricing please. Timing too. Unlike Neil I think I’ll find this really comfortable, especially with a new saddle, just like the V-Strom that is nearing retirement at 135K. Does the offroad version have more suspension travel. Like ’em both, but if I could get that spoked front sealed, I’d probably go that way. I’m thinking Triumph should get quite a bit more HP out of that triple than then BMW does, based on having ridden the Triumph 675 and an 800 GS.
It’s 21″ front so you can run a Tublis set up, Tire Balls, or even stuff 29 tennis balls in it!
I am drooling like mad. Want them both!! Pricing?
I go out on a limb and say BIKES OF THE YEAR!!!!!
Looks fab. This is the bike I’ve needed/wanted but never found. Light (so I hear), powerful (around 95-100bhp), a true dual sport, with spoked wheels, passenger and luggage friendly.
And a Triumph!
I guarantee you it will have more power than that… The 675 engine makes ~110hp at the wheel, let alone an 800 version of the same engine! I’d predict something more along the lines of 118hp at the wheel, since it will be tuned more for a broad torque spread and user-friendliness than outright power.
That is some serious conjecturing Josh.
Well, that’s all we can really do right about now, no? What do you think the bike will have for HP?
Good point. I guess conjecture is sort of why we are all here reading and writing this stuff.
I just hope that a wide and useable powerband is not sacraficed in order to get some high and silly peak HP figure. Ten more than the F800GS would be plenty for this machine as long as it had the mid-range that makes real-world riding truely enjoyable.
no way, way too much.
The larger engine will yield more torque, wider torque band, about same power or slightly less. I rode a 675R and wheelied (not trying to, just jamming) at freeway speed….yes, I was on a freeway!
Fat Chance, tuned more like a 200hp SBC on a 1975 Caprice, enough power to get moving but not enough to be stressed and self-destruct itself under someone’s Happy right fist.
Probably Anvil reliable.
OOops! Make that right foot!
Wow. If that isn’t a BMW copy I dunno what is. Go your own way ?
Neil it has a lot to do with the current fashion for “new lower seat!” which I absolutely hate because anyone over 6′ is now stuffed just so that shorter people “can put both feet safely on the ground”. Excuse me, but what does that have to do with actually RIDING a bike?
Yeah, i hate those “Side effects” too.
Having sat on the Versys and the NT700V, I have to say that this looks like the Versys and it was not comfortable. Any frame shaped like a V with the tank going up in the front and the subframe going up in the back does not lend itself to being comfy in to long run. If you look at the side profile of the NT700, Honda has made it much more comfy and I felt instantly at home. I’ll have to reserve judgement until I actually sit on one, but that one thing is a deal breaker on any bike. The rest of the bike looks great. Ducati did the same thing with their new Multi 1200 and the previous Triumph Sprint, just before the GT was horrid as well.
On a picture of the bike, draw a line from the front of the seat to the rear. Send picture and stock seat to Renazco. Done.
Sweet!