The current (2015) Ducati Hypermotard.
If you are paying attention, you know that government agencies frequently blow embargoed information for manufacturers. It happens with cell phones, and it also happens with motorcycles. California’s Air Resources Board has certified four new 2016 Ducatis by Executive Orders dated September 23, 2015.
According to CARB, we can expect a 2016 Ducati 959 Panigale (displacing 955cc), as well as a trio of Hypermotards displacing 937cc and denominated Hypermotard 939, Hypermotard 939 SP and Hyperstrada 939. These bikes will presumably replace the 899 Panigale (displacing 898cc) and the current Hypermotard family (each displacing 821cc).
Since Ducati has previously revealed the Monster 1200 R, do we now know five of the nine new models Ducati intends to introduce this Fall? It appears so.
2015 Ducati 899 Panigale.
Clear what up?? I said the GV 650 Pro spanked the Jap V twins 1100cc -1300cc and below by a 650 Hyosung GV ..Not a 4cyl..Never said the sportbikes !!I own many bikes and EBR is one of them and a few turbo bikes but thats another debate..So bring it like said before cant beat the 650 Pro stock for stock and pick all that Jap cruiser twin and it will lose..Cant you guys get anything right??Hyosung owns those bikes 1/4 mile and top speed..Bring on the excuses..
No, Turboman said that. As you said, you are new here, and we have you confused with someone else.
Could there really be 2 rabid Hyosung fans?
It’s the same person. He has posted under various screen names to appear to be validated. His style of writing, however, gives him away each time.
Twist plot: Jeremy maintains Turboman accounts just for sake of trolling the forum.
What?? You have me confused with someone else bring it like I said Hyosung and EBR rule the streets Jap bikes Euro bikes got nothing but excu… Err, umm, I mean, Hyosungs and EBRs are formidable offerings in their respective market segments, and I refuse to acquiesce to the belligerent banter of those loutishly attempting to refute this incontrovertible fact with the fallacious arguments disgorged on this forum in a delusive attempt to defile the venerable status of these two marks. Simply because Turboman and other cultivated motoscholars such as King Kenny and Seca II subscribe to the same undeniable truth revealed to me by EBR and Hyosung does not in any way substantiate a link between my user account and theirs.
P.S. CF Moto is a very industrious and ambitious company fueled by a creative flair for product design and engineering and benchmark quality controls currently in the process of unleashing a concentrated assault on the recall-laden manufacturers from the US (except EBR), Japan and Europe . We would all be wise to keep an eye on the astonishing progress being made by this manufacturer and sample their fine motorcycles as they graciously begin introducing them to the US market.
P.S.S. I can foresee a time in the not-too-distant future when CF Moto sees fit to acquire both Hyosung and EBR to form the only motorcycle manufacturer that needs to exist. Once this comes to pass, we will all collectively jizz. And we will not find that weird at all.
Oh…. Ok.
Well said anyone can learn from the fool but the fool learns from no one..
“the fool learns from no one”
I know. Kind of like the guy on here floating 4+ user names in an attempt to plug Hyosung motorcycles ever chance he gets regardless of how unrelated a particular Hyosung model might be to subject at hand?
Oh wait… That’s you, isn’t it?
re: “If you are paying attention”
you bet your a$$ pal…!!!
re: “we can expect a 2016 Ducati 959 Panigale”
yes please.
re: “displacing 955cc”
a displacement the Ducati faithful will recognize from the 916 era as one of the homologation specials Bologna released in the late 90’s for “Ferrach” racing in AMA. what’s old is new.
I use to think the “old 899” served a nice niche, the people who want a an sporty vtwin, like the Ducati brand, want a “proper” race bike (or looks) but want a manageable package (geeeee 145 as per Duc website became a more manageable bike…. geeee).
With this one they should have introduced a 750cc size again so you can get 200-250cc increments like in ole times.
re: “I use to think the “old 899” served a nice niche”
i know, strange to call it “old” innit…? funny how labels work. for all intents, they just gave us the friggin’ thing yesterday. LOL
Say what you will but Ducati is going to continue to innovate – in design, pushing capabilities within categories and obviously displacements.
3 Flavors of Hypermotards??? Both the Diavel & the Multistrada broke new ground within an established category. Their Scrambler is hit and it immediately eclipsed the other retro offerings.
Just waiting for a true ST bike with the MS motor. Upright ergos, wind protection, light weight and PERFORMANCE!
A true ST bike? You mean the Multistrada? That already exists.
You were so quick to reply you missed my spec request.
I asked for an ST as in SPORT touring. Not Multistrada as in Multi-Roads which obviously included dirt and gravel, as per Ducati.
They have made STs prior, you’re probably too young an uninformed to know that.
Was hoping they’d come out with a new ST to continue the STx line they discontinued some years back. Still love my ST4s.
I can’t get past the price + service + insurance. If I were younger and had more time to pay off loans. But even if you are young; wife, kids, house, SUV. Plenty of new Indians and Asians coming here as young professionals though, so hold on to your hat. Really nice machines. The new Monsters are great with the flatter seats. Scrambler. Let’s see what Wall Street does with the next election. What a mess at the moment. Hillary? Really?
“Hillary, really?” you could say the same about Trump! but back to the bikes, Ducati’s marketing dept. is genius, even if you know the formula, you don’t care cuz the bikes are so cool. yea, I miss the ST series, too.
Ted Cruz isn’t a proven Liar or a Blowhard.
Surely these is one Ducati you’d want….
He is also not facing an indictment.
Bazinga!
Let’s try to stay out of politics on at least one motorcycle shall we?
Insurance isn’t bad at all due to less than average claims history, service intervals are up to 18,000 miles for most models.
I have a ’12 MTS 1200 and pay 39$ a month full coverage with state farm.
Cost of ownership has come way down, in ’95 the 916 was 15 grand. Never did I dream I’d own a Duc back then. The 1299 is 19 grand. Not a huge price hike relative to the Japanese 1000’s.
re: “I can’t get past the price + service + insurance.”
oh but you can, the question is, “Do you really want to…?” (Morpheus voice)
Last good looking bike they made was the Paul Smart…
Now that we have crept all the way back up to 955cc again can we just get a 1000cc twin class back now? Maybe we could get a 1000cc parallel twin outa Japan, or a new RC. It would be nice to see a selection of 750cc I4’s as well. I miss true middle weight sport bikes, and I really want an updated version of my old Superhawk. sigh.
The gap in performance between 600’s and 1000’s has grown too wide.
The only reason we ever got the RC-51 was because Honda knew they couldn’t win with 25% fewer cc’s.
I had a Superhawk, what a great engine! Maybe if we’re lucky (and the US motorcycle market rebounds), we’ll see a sportbike built around that Africa Twin’s new engine.
If Honda did use the Africa Twin’s engine in a performance street bike my guess is the folks at Honda would find someway to make it as exciting as driving a used but every well maintained 4 cylinder Accord. Which seems to be the direction they are going with sportbikes now days.
The Africa twin’s motor was lifted off from Honda’s Pilot 4×4 buggy.
Totally not suited for performance street bike duty.
Why not? If it makes 100-110hp with long, flat torque it’ll be an awesome engine for the street, just like the Superhawk is, but with a more compact engine package.
re: “the RC-51”
OMG, still looking for a minty fresh ’04 Nicky. if you find, gimme a jingle on the jangle.
Bummer. I was really looking forward to Ducati breaking into the street legal performance sidecar market.
Lol. What happend to all the Ducati shills?
Posting a slightest negtive comment about Ducati used to result in
a whole legion of them showing up to defend the marque tooth and nail.
So….the Ducati Rushmore project?
Not to pee on the parade, but there is still a lot to hit the fan with the whole Volkswagon deal. We’ll see if Ducati comes out OK.
Unless moral indignation causes people who feel strongly about the VW issue to boycott their subsidiaries then I don’t think there will be any impact. VW would have to do something driven by politics not economics to screw up Ducati.
“New models” = Make the engines slightly bigger. Will we be seeing the Scrambler 900 and Diavel 1399 next?
Nice try, Ducati. I’m not buying it.
It works every time harley changes a fender on on of their sleds.
That’s a sheeple thing, they just want to be different than everyone else.
We have zero Duc dealers on my edge of the earth, although they do look nice, I grew up on Jap iron and I’ll stay that way.
Ducati is nothing more than the new Harley, cant come up with any new model of significance so they just bore out the cylinders. Truly pathetic.
You can’t possibly be serious? When is the last time you visited a Duc dealership? I am guessing it had to be prior to 2010 or so.
I wouldn’t say that. Harley only makes two kinds of bikes: cruisers and cruisers with bags and big, goofy fairings.
Ducati has a pretty broad line of bikes that extend into most market segments. I think the Scrambler is a pretty significant new model. Also still presumably are the two “new” market segments they intend to get into.
I would consider the Hypermotards, the Multistradas, the Diavel, the Panigale, the Scrambler all to be significant new models from the last few years. A couple of these models have since been imitated which I think says an awful lot. To compare Ducati to HD is just ludicrous. HD would be the Bizarro World version of Ducati.
Seriously, the Multistrada, Panigale, Scrambler, etc. They seem to come out with more new and different bikes than any other manufacturer. Admittedly the 5 in this article don’t qualify.
Honda will be introducing the CBR 959R, 997RR, 1058 R3, CB 1000 SP1, CB 1001 SP2.
That is 5 new models! Wow!
Next year they will release 15 new models… to incursionate en 800 new markets…
955 white, 955 red, 955 pearl white, 955 white sp, 955 red sp….
Remember when Ducati’s open class bike displaced 916cc?
The italians (and austrians)are coming out swinging, more than I can say for the japanese
H2.. H2R…R-1…Africa Twin..FZ/FJ09 triples
+1
KTM, Ducati, Aprilia, BMW and Triumph = more new bikes and innovation in the last couple of years than all the Japanese manufacturers combined.
Now throw in the all new 2016 Honda DN-01 Super Sport …that changes everything!
“KTM, Ducati, Aprilia, BMW and Triumph = more new bikes and innovation in the last couple of years than all the Japanese manufacturers combined”
Truth…..with the possible exception of Triumph. Now if these manufacturers could only match Honda or Yamaha’s level of refinement.
I have to disagree with that. With the exception of Suzuki, the Japanese OEMs have been very busy. The H2, R1, and FZ’s are some of the most significant bikes to hit the market in the past few years in my opinion. The H2 is a hint of things to come, the R1 is MotoGP for the average Joe and the FZs have completely redefined bang for the buck.
The Ninja 300 moved the beginner bike class into a displacement range that is finally usable everywhere in this country and revolutionized that category in the US. That broader appeal and low price point is no doubt the reason that segment has exploded with options recently.
Honda is trying to cater to riders that are not spec-sheet junkies. Their 500cc “world bikes” are often overlooked but are fantastic machines. Honda is also really beginning to push automatic transmissions which, for better or worse, I think will eventually be commonplace in new motorcycles and will do more to get new riders into the market than 200hp per liter or electronics stability control ever could.
While most of the European OEMs chase the disposable income of the most affluent, the Japanese are exploring ways to raise the motorcycle industry out of the deep pit it has recently fallen into. The products the Japanese are introducing may not be the most glittery, exception to the R1 and H2, but they are no less innovative. It is only the goal that is different.
Well said Jeremy. I know it has been said on here many times but the good ole US of A doesn’t seem to be the primary market for any OEMs these days. American consumers better get used to that fact. And if you asked me who will ultimately achieve more success with their marketing strategy, I’d have to vote for the Japanese.
Mike says: September 30, 2015 at 9:16 am
KTM, Ducati, Aprilia, BMW and Triumph = more new bikes and innovation in the last couple of years than all the Japanese manufacturers combined.
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My reply to Jeremy
Not convinced by your reply or the blatant generality of my original statement above.
It is subjective anyway and too often influenced by what manufacturer(s) we like, the bike(s) we like/own, who did the post/reply…. and other matters
It would be nice if there was a “poll” function here which would at least quantify what all of us “think” in cases like this.
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I do feel strongly about this though….excluding HD….the four Japanese manufactures have 70% of the market in America….. in my view they certainly do not have 70% of the “new bikes and innovation in the last couple of years.”
Well, if it is any consolation to you Mike, I don’t own a Japanese bike. I haven’t owned a Japanese bike in over a decade. So I hope whatever bias there is in my statement is minimal. Still, it is just my opinion, based on nothing more than my unscientific observations. Both sides of this argument can be solidly defended and I think comes down to how we define “innovation.”
Jeremy in TX says:
October 1, 2015 at 10:10 am
Well, if it is any consolation to you Mike, I don’t own a Japanese bike. I haven’t owned a Japanese bike in over a decade. So I hope whatever bias there is in my statement is minimal. Still, it is just my opinion, based on nothing more than my unscientific observations. Both sides of this argument can be solidly defended and I think comes down to how we define “innovation.”
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My Reply: Agree with all above….except I dont view this as an argument at all…..
And I do recall on a prior post us talking about bikes we both like…..thumpers ….I recall this being your current ride. Would be a miracle I could remember this or anything more than one day now….hope this is the exception.
Finally, we do agree on most stuffffff….and that is not a bad thing!
“And I do recall on a prior post us talking about bikes we both like…..thumpers ….I recall this being your current ride.”
It isn’t my only bike, Mike, but you remember correctly in that my go-to ride these days is a 55hp Husqvarna thumper. Your faculties are intact!
Jeremy in TX says:
October 1, 2015 at 12:40 pm
“And I do recall on a prior post us talking about bikes we both like…..thumpers ….I recall this being your current ride.”
It isn’t my only bike, Mike, but you remember correctly in that my go-to ride these days is a 55hp Husqvarna thumper.
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My Reply
At my age now ….. about once a month everything controlling my thought process and memory comes together and the result every so often is one thing that makes sense to me ….plus one other person. This time, this month it was you….for better or worse, of course!
My wife and I will be leaving the East in a month forever and going fulltiming in our 5th wheel out west…maybe we could meet up and talk about bikes.
Here is my email address which I will be canning in a month or so and switching over to Gmail. Think on it now.
team222@comcast.net 222 = 2 ole, 2 fat and way 2 slow …..and …one is not true.
The H2 – i wouldn’t be caught dead on that bike, it is uglier than a vstrom
I’m not too thrilled with the R1’s looks either from the front, nor the riding position of either
Now the african twin, you have a point,but one decent bike from Honda in how long…
The fz bikes, they are on par for ugliness like the H2
So there is no pleasing you.
maybe
Ill take a new EBR 1190 RX for $9995.00 and destroy that Ducati..American Muscle and then everyone can make their excuses
“American Muscle and then everyone can make their excuses”
And then what would your excuse be when all of the bikes actually designed to compete with the EBR 1190RX wipe the floor with you?
Using an 1190RX to pick on this “little” Ducati? Bad form!
Motorcycle is only as good as the rider and the 1190RX against the 1199 was just as good as the Ducati around the race track and for the average rider according to Motorcycle.com was half a second quicker per lap with their better than novice riders.So for the average rider on the street the 1190RX gets the job done quite well.
“So for the average rider on the street the 1190RX gets the job done quite well.”
No denying that.
yea, but that EBR 1190 is certainly no Hyosung
Plus at 9995.00 for 185 hp and 101 on torque there isn’t a better deal out there
No Hyosung??? you mean it does have recalls?
http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/newsnservice/recall/GT-GV650Recall.asp
the first one is scary, “A fuel leak combined with a source of ignition could cause a fire.”, but hey it’s faster than any vtwin japanese slug right? lol hahahahaha.
BTW Jeremy you got again in an argument with Turboman hahahaha
OTH the EBR 1190RX seems to be an exceptional bike (at least that’s what people who have compared it with the Duc says).
Recalls?HYosung??Im not who you might think but ok!!!! I bought a 1190 RX but for 10995 a few weeks back and have no problems ..
Wow a do not ride request. So they are equal to BMWs huh?
Yes, it appears I just can’t help myself, xLaYN. But hey, if he wants to reinvent himself, I say we let him!
Jeremy you are soooo right.
I excuse myself for that post.
EBR AHRMA FORMULA THUNDER AND SOUND OF THUNDER NATIONAL CHAMPIONS WITH EXHAUST AND OHLINS SHOCK ALMOST VIRTUALLY STOCK..USA USA USA
Whats a do not ride request?.Im new here fellas!!
bmw requested owners of certain new BMWs not ride them until they could be towed to a dealer and repaired/ replaced/ bought back. Apparently Hyosung has made the same request according to the recall.
Which jas nothing to do the EBR, we just have one reader who says Hyosung is better than everything, so obviously being in agreement ( cough not really cough) I had to say that EBR is no Hyosung. Hope that clears up the conversation for you.
Bring on the Jap cruisers and like i said before ..GV 650 Pro spanks the V twins 1300cc and below cruisers 1/4 and top speed and never said soprt bikes..Recalls 2007 ?? really its 2015..Another joke response..