Next year, expect to see cosmetically redesigned Triumphs, including the Street Triple and Daytona 675 (no word on performance enhancements at this time). You can find the redesigned models in spy photos posted here on Solo Moto.
Also new next year is an expected big bore Triumph Trophy sport touring model featuring the brawny 1215cc triple from the new Explorer adventure bike. This new sport tourer is also pictured on Solo Moto at the link referenced above. The new Trophy will also feature the shaft drive from the Explorer, which we discussed in depth in our article here.
I have a bloated/pig SportTOURING bike now BMW R1200RT had a 1150RT before that and am in Canada and in me 60’s. This type of bike is great for my use but not everyone’s cup of tea.
In North America we have looonnng distances for touring with cool springs and falls and dame cold winters and appreciate the upright riding position and good weather protection. We don’t all want a 900 lb. Goldwing so this class of bike is great.
This “prototype” looks too much like my R1200RT, but I want to see the final version and will be very interested in trading (comparing to the R1200RT liquid cooled boxer likely out in 2013/14). Have have Triumphs before and like them.
Would like more room between the seat and pegs than I have now, my old knees are getting older. Hope Triumph is reading this.
Looks like we might have something close to that Sprint 800, guys! If this is as good as I think it could be, it may be my next bike!
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2012/March/mar0212-triumph-tiger-sport-1050-spied/Post.aspx
I am not a fan of that Trophy look. You would think they would get that settled on the drawing table. – The other two bikes have paper thin seats that would be killing you after half an hour. They should take a lesson from the Specialized bicycle seats which I was amazed by. And, your arms come up, feet stay where the racing bikes are and your legs push you into the tank instead. – Then you take a Bonneville out and cannot believe how comfy and composed and fun it is. – Or you can sit on the CB1000R and realize perfection, stock, as far as seating goes. I don’t care what the motor does on a bike if I sit on it in the showroom and my ass says no. Done.
Just to be clear, the Trophy in the picture is wearing an ST1300 disguise. See the headlights, windshield mounts, pillion rail, etc. The only non-Honda bodywork is around the sides of the engine (where the Triple is visibly different from the V4. Either the bodywork isn’t ready for testing or they’re hiding it from paparazzi.
Other than “Triumph is testing a touring-size bike” the pic doesn’t really doesn’t tell you anything.
Years ago when I owned a ’00 Sprint RS, I was on a Sprint message board. Every year when the new models were announced, two of the biggest complaints (aside from suspension improvements) were that they hadn’t enlarged the engine enough, or that they hadn’t added shaft drive. Now that they finally built the bike half the whiners asked for, the other half now think it’s bloated. No single bike will make everyone happy, but I can see why some people would be drawn to the new Trophy.
For those that want a light sport tourer, just buy an 800 Tiger and consider the XC model if you’re taller. The 800 Tiger is far more comfortable and a much better street bike in every possible way than my Sprint ever was. If Triumph built an 800 ST the only noticeable changes would be a bit more plastic and a slightly smaller front wheel i.e. not much difference.
I gotta disagree with you Nick. I have a 1050 Sprint and much prefer the riders triangle of the Sprint as compared to any Tiger, 800 or 1050. Different bikes for different tastes. I love my 1050, but I’d also love to see Triumph build a lighter weight version of the Sprint with the 800 motor.
Every time I ride a Tiger I don’t feel nearly as connected to the road as I do on my Sprint. They’re very different bikes.
I agree with sliphorn…the tiger 1050 is a great do it all motorcycle, but there are many who want an ST built on the Speed Triple chassis rather than the do it all version. MORE sport than tour if you follow my drift.
BMW does have the F800ST, so a Sprint ST800 to go head to head with the BMW makes perfect sense.
Weird man weird. Can’t stand the new angular headlights on the new Speed Trip and yet to me they look “right” on this supposedly new Street Trip. Must be the cough medicine I am taking to get over my latest cold.
As long as enough people wish to buy “bloated pigs”, they will be manufactured and sold. That is a nice thing about democracy and the free market-you can buy them if you want to, not buy them if you don’t want to. It is good to have the choice.
Are you sure there really are enough people that “wish” to buy bloated pigs? Or do the manufacturers just assume that the USA is interested in big behemoth bikes just because there are people that have bought them already? Did it ever occur to them that perhaps the behemoths were purchased because there simply wasn’t anything smaller available from anyone? (besides a race rep) Maybe what the USA sport touring crowd really wants is a sportbike with hard cases and comfortable ergos. Did Hinkley ever ask?
Yes, there is a market, no denying it and the other guys make some mighty goods ones. But the original Trophy was never that huge. It was the size of the current Sprint GT. I don’t know why Hinkley made this thing.
Triumph rose from the ashes and has been successful because they did some great things and created their own unique products that no one else has. There’s less success to be had when you have to fight for market share from similar products. Believe me, steady corporate growth isn’t the best thing to always pursue because you can lose focus of what made you successful in the first place. Sometimes you should just do what you do best and keep doing it better. Let the rest fight each other for sales.
I was extremely interested in replacing my BMW R1100S with system cases with a redesigned Sprint ST that never came. Instead the gave us the GT which is heavier, longer and just as archaeic as the ST. All I wanted was a ST with better suspension and brakes and perhaps some new styling and a few lost pounds. So I bought a Ninja 1000 and hard cases instead. Small, light, excellent power, excellent brakes and pretty good suspension (except the rear). The only thing I don’t like about it is it’s a inline 4. I much prefer twins and triples.
Yes Yes we do need another bloated pig,I happen to like them. I like the st but I’m not getting me and my wife on it and head out for a long weekend. It ain’t that comfortable for my taste. Triumph needed this bike It will certaintly lure the Jap customers and the Beemer touring crowd. Beside a sport bike with hard luggage has never been a good seller. Just sayin. the old vfr800 poor sales all beemer sport bikes with bags far below full sport touring models in sales. Loved Buell S3T poor sales,zzr1200 poor sales. Ducati St3 and St4 poor sales. All the bike mentioned are great bikes in their own right, but when only one bike resides in my garage it’s gotta be a full sport tourer(ie R/T GT Connie etc) and now a new Triumph to join the crowd. Hey it still beats a Gold Wing or Ultra H.D.
OK, I’ll say Amen for fastwin. These “I want a simple, small light touring bike” guys seem to only exist in places like this. When the bikes are released (see fastwin’s post for a partial list) these guys suddenly disappear suddenly disappear.
The manufacturers make big, heavy touring bike because A, they sell and B, they make more money on a higher priced bike.
Capitalism works because it is simple system. Make what sells, sell it for a competitive price and you make money. Make products that does sell (see fastwin’s list) or price them to high (what I think will happen to the Motus) and you don’t make money.
Goose
Have you ever ridden a HD Ultra? Wow. Many ride these as long/far/fast as sport touring rigs and imported pigs. What in your opinion is wrong with them?
AMEN !!!!!!!!
That AMEN is for Bob not Fasrwin
RIGHT Bob! – Que the Motus…Emphasis on the Sport part of SPORT-touring, light weight, power & sporting suspension – with comfy ergos, wind protection and bags.
After taking a closer look, the new trophy is the Sprint GT with a bigger engine and redesigned front faring.
And shaft drive on a single sided swing arm.1
Where is the light/middle weight sport tourer? My SprintST is getting a little long in the tooth. 75,000 miles.
Trophy looks good, if they can match R1200RT weight at a lower price, this would be verry interesting
Agree with Donnydarko, the 675 got hit with the ugly stick. Hopefully that’s not the final bodywork. I really hope the MV goes as good as it looks after seeing this thing.
The front fairing looks lifted directly from the R1200RT, the headlight from the ST1300 and the rear body work of an FJR 1300. There is nothing that says “Triumph”, rather it says we had our designers working on something else so my 14 year old son (who is a wiz on photoshop)lifted this design from photos of our competition.
The worst part is; it already looks dated…
The new Trophy doesn’t move me. I have a ’99 Trophy 1200 (BBBB) and frequently get “Nice Bike!” comments. It has a distinctive look. This new one looks like a BMW. Given that the RT is their target they need to offer a distinctive look and more displacement to compete successfully. Not to mention cruise control, adjustable screen, etc. I really hope they do more with it than what I see here.
Looks like the 675’s are joining the ugly muff club.
Could be function over form. Under seat exhaust makes placement demands of the shock and linkage, adds weight/cost, as well as making plumbing with engine performance a secondary concern.
Yikes… the 675 Daytona looks worse IMO. Looks like some spit some buell in the designers coffee or something
I’d love to see a Street Triple ST or Sprint in the 675 or 800 variety.
Yep. Still waiting for that Sprint 800… *tap tap tap*
Yup, a Sprint ST 800 would be outstanding!
800 Sprint ST – +1
I still favor the full liter, but could learn to love an 800 if the weight is light enough.
That’s exactly why I’d want one instead. I want to move from pure sportbike (I’ve had my Daytona 675 for 6 years) to a sport-tourer, and there’s nothing out there but heavy bloated junk! The closest thing I’ve found and liked is the Kawasaki Ninja 1000 — which is still 500 pounds. If Triumph could produce a baby Sprint under 500 pounds with that 800 engine tuned more for the mission, I’d be all over it (as would many others)! But, Triumph seems to want to BE BMW…
I’d really, really like a Daytona 1100. Perhaps even an “R” version with Brembo brakes, Ohlins suspension, and the other bits that the 675R had.
The USA market has been begging for one for ever since the 675 Daytona came out. No idea why Hinkley refuses to build a liter race rep for us.
Can’t have a race rep of a racebike they don’t have or race
Someone would race it somewhere….
Not sure how much the factory participates in racing the 675 anyway. They don’t seem to have a factory presence like Honda, Yamaha, Ducacti, etc… Anyone know for sure?
Triumph has a satelite team in World Supersport and Jason DiSalvo in AMA with triumph USA backing. Lack of success in World Supersport caused them to pull full factory backing. Triumph is smart enough to know they could never be competitve in the larger literbike class, hence no race bike or race rep. The old Daytona 955 was not a financial win for them either.
re: “The USA market has been begging for one for ever since the 675 Daytona came out.”
actually they’ve been begging for one WAAYY before triumph themselves even knew from the 675.
re: “No idea why Hinkley refuses to build a liter race rep for us.”
i do. the mantra in business is, “make what you can sell, not sell what you can make.” triumph knows we’re only paying the idea “lip service”. in fact, they know us better than we know ourselves.
That IS the ST1300! Same front, same bags, same side covers! A case of “converging evolution”?
It’s a SprintGT.
“posed for” instead of “spied” me thinks.
Still, the more bike choices the better!
Could the Trophy look anymore like the BMW R1200RT? Was hoping for something more distinctive. Maybe those are test mule skins on it?
The trophy in that link looks monstrous! Does the world really need another bloated pig? We already have the FJR, Connie and ST1300.
You forgot the GT1600 Beemer!